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It came up at the bowling ally that a certain some one did not grasp some trivial technical fact about mother boards and ram, I think they should know as a computer technician for a major retail chain .
Single Sided vs. Double Sided DIMMs

mother boards that require single sided, double sided dimm specifics.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/zm6/page2.asp

http://www.asus.com.tw/mb/socke t478/p4b533-v/overview.htm

http://accelenation.com/?ac.id.131.1

your see at the bottom of this page and explanation that in dual channel mode matching DIMMs need to be used.
http://www.shuttle.com/share/fae/hq/faq/sff/qa/Shuttle%20SN95G 5%20XPC.htm

 
   
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Nah, just buy a couple packs of any ole RAM and stick em in their like you're stuffing a sock puppet! Who cares what slot they go in! It'll work Razz

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Litigh8 wrote:
Nah, just buy a couple packs of any ole RAM and stick em in their like you're stuffing a sock puppet! Who cares what slot they go in! It'll work Razz


I'd have to disagree.. I have a set of PC 900 DDR (512 mb / dual channel), and this shit is AWESOME. Next time I buy a computer, I'll make sure to put in 2 gigs of this --> http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-509&depa=0

 
   
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My computer's RAM is in dual-channel mode and I have a single-sided stick and a double-sided stick-it works. My motherboard is an Asus A7N8X2.0 and the ram is some Kingston 2100 overclocked to 2400. I think the only "bottleneck" in my PC is the memory right now.

Also.. my opinion on double-sided is that it is slightly better for cooling since all of the heat isn't to one side.

 
   
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phoAm wrote:

Also.. my opinion on double-sided is that it is slightly better for cooling since all of the heat isn't to one side.


The single sided double sided debate is The single sided / double sided debate is strange. The good thing about it is that it an be solved in lab with testing and brand loyalties do not ably as most manufactures make both.
Most people I have talked to / read can support that with memory test that one type of ram is faster than another. I have seen it go both ways, but quality single sided faster most cases because they can make the traces shorter/thicker on the PCB. If the company uses roughly the same PCB layout for both ss and ds memory it does not make a difference.
In my experience current memory dose not get hot if you are using good south bridge cooling, for the AMD 64’s I would see how active memory cooling could help you, with no option to cool the south bridge.
PhoAm what memory times are you using? And what chip set?

 
   
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chipset: nForce2
ram timings(i think..): 2-6-2-2
I'll check again when I get home. Heheh.

 
   
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I'm happy with my corsair PC3200 Value select. It's cheap, and extremely stable (at stock speed at least)

It works well for the extent of my overclocking.

I have

Custom built watercooling (DangerDen TDX, Maze 4, mag 3 pump, 1/2" ID tubing, DangerDen heatcore)
P4 3.2E @ 4.01GHz (1.52vcore)
Abit IC7-g Max II (i875 chipset) (best overclocking mobo ever, besides the ASUS equivalent)
1GB PC3200 Corsair valueselect (Ratio 5:4, current frequency- 200, timings 2.5 3 3 7)
Radeon 9800 Pro flashed to XT Overclocked (438/378)
Turtle Beach Santa Cruz (best sound card i've ever owned. $40 from newegg)

See, that's all I got. I don't buy ridiculous unnecessary hardware like a lot of you people do. Wink

So my Ram isn't freaking great. It doesn't overclock. It makes no difference to me, because I'm maxed out with my CPU overclock. Not because of my Ram. I've reached the maximum voltage that you should ever let a prescott CPU operate at 24/7. Until it becomes obvious that my RAM is imparing my overclock, I shalln't upgrade.

in case you are wondering, that 4.01GHz is 100% prime95 stable.

 
   
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My Athlon XP 2500+ is overclocked to 3200+ speed (2.2 ghz) and the vcore is set to 1.7 heheh.
 
   
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sorry but my 4.0 still pwns. Heh. but that's a good overclock. A friend of mine had a 2600 at 3200. Back when I had my 2.53 @ 3.1, his machine still pwnz0red mine.
 
   
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I always want to find the best price/performance deal so I am usually a year or so behind with computer upgrades.
 
   
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It's hard. like for example, video cards. ATI is already coming out with a newer generation graphics card that exceeds the X800 series. That's pretty ridiculous.. they don't even have the games to keep up with these cards.

And these Intel Extreme Edition CPUs? what a rip. the 2mb Cache gives you about a 30-40% gain over it's $600 cheaper prescott equivalent.

 
   
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Yea! What the hell... technology is just increasing exponentially or something, but I guess they need to release one generation at a time to cover manufacturing costs and stuff.
 
   
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and about the double sided vs single sided:

As far as I know, intel chipsets usually don't have too much problems with double sided ram. Its some amd's that pitch a fit with double sided ram. You can easily run double sided sticks with single sided sticks in SOME motherboards with no problems.

Single sided seems to be the safer choice but now since most people are making the switch to 2X512mb you'll be dealing with double sided sticks anyhow. Long story short. This single sided dual sided crap usually deals with winbond chips ex. bh-5 bh-6 ch-6. Most new tccd chips don't have nearly the issues that winbond has had.

 
   
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Mrbandalifegsr wrote:
and about the double sided vs single sided:

As far as I know, intel chipsets usually don't have too much problems with double sided ram. Its some amd's that pitch a fit with double sided ram. You can easily run double sided sticks with single sided sticks in SOME motherboards with no problems.


lol, I am not aware of AMD making chipsets. and the intel 440 chipset is the clasic when it comes to ram issues.

 
   
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I meant AMD socket motherboards. I'm so sorry.
 
   
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