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Ichiban
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:54 pm
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| machrichelieu wrote: | Perhaps you have never completely appreciated the art of writing. The objective is not to beset your audience with exorbitant, artistical flourishes, but rather to craft your message in a way which best suits the particular group to which you write. It is quite apparent that you have never fully comprehended this most ponderous detail.
Our current audience is not comprised of scholars, but rather of ordinary individuals. Therefore I find it best not to inundate them with ornate language. Always remember that a good writer writes to the audience, not to flaunt a supposed talent which he or she may harbor.
Biatch.
| Andrew wrote: | | machrichelieu wrote: | damn andrew, you sound like the kind of person who tries to write real smart and stuff just so people think you're intelligent, when in reality you're just a dumbass... why do you have to write so condescendingly?
I agree, you are an asshole. |
C'mon, man, don't hate me because of my writing skills. Perhaps you should polish your own. Then you might not feel so inadequate.  |
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Oh my God, I think that's the definition of Cockslap.
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Ichiban
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:56 pm
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| lsugroovychlck wrote: | | I can't speak for Phil, but I am in no doubt sure his opinion formed of you long before any of this happened. |
Wrong. My view on people is based on actions more than words, and is not static. I didn't just wake up one morning and say "HEY, WTF IS UP WITH THAT ANDREW GUY!?" and I still don't wake up saying that.
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Thu Jul 15, 2004 11:58 pm
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| TiGeR_PriNcEsS wrote: | Well Andrew, since i so quickly got looped in with Andrea and Phil on your hate list, let me clarify why I think you are an asshole.
(1) You assume a lot of stuff. How do you know Andrea and Phil are spreading rumors? What rumors are they? All Andrea did was tell her side of the story, just like you did. It's not a rumor, it's how she saw it.
(2) You think Phil can use mind control on us. You go as far as saying that he has brainwashed Allison to dislike you AND to say that he has gotten "us" (Brigid's friends) to avoid her. I want to know who told her we were avoiding her, because that certainly is NOT the case. In my defense, I would love to sepnd more time with Brigid, but our work schedules conflict (I work 8-4:30 and she works 4-10 most of the time). I would hope Brigid (a girl whom I consider a sister to me) would believe RUMORS of this sort.
(3) You are telling me that me calling you an asshole "doesnt really do any of us good". What good does you calling Andrea and Phil...I'm sorry, I mean "a couple of people" immature? How are they immature? They are just defending themselves like you are, although I don't see why you feel the need to do so if you are "not really concerned" with a person's opinion.
(4)Sometimes, you come off as being really judgmental.
| Quote: | | I think it's terrible that you have been avoiding Brigid just because you don't like her being involved with me. I think it's terrible that Andrea did the same, cutting off their friendship over petty jealousy. I think that reflects poorly on both of you as friends. When times get a little bit tough, your solution is to just take some time off from the friendship. You deal with your problems by avoiding them. You have not been a good friend to Brigid recently. With all she has been through in this situation, she could have used your support. You've really let her down, though, avoiding her like this. When it comes to friendships, it looks to me like she gave you more credit than you deserve. |
All I can say is WTF? That hurts man. I don't care who that was directed to, but who do you think you are to come out and accuse people of being bad friends? It just baffles me how you come out and you sound really positive about the bullshit you are spewing. I think it is Brigid's decison to pick and choose her friends AND to say who are good/bad ones. Until SHE comes out and calls anyone a bad friend, you have no place to do so. And even then (like when you called her mother ALL possible names under the sun), you still don't have a right do degrade someone like you just did. Freedom of speech, yes. But just like you don't want rumors and slander being spoken about you, I don't think other want it done to them either.
I think that's fine for now. |
Let's see, where did I get the idea that Phil and Andrea spread rumors about me? Well, I put that one together when I heard from about a half dozen different people some of the things (untrue) that they had been saying about me behind my back. Pretty good reasoning, huh? In any case, whether it is because of rumors you heard or just your own overactive imagination, you have some pretty warped ideas about me.
First, I never said anything about Phil brainwashing Allison to dislike me. There was a period of several days (immediately following one of the more hostile exchanges Phil and I have had) when she was a bit snippy with me. I said that it looked as if she had some problem with me, and I said I suspected Phil might have had something to do with that. Why did I suspect that? It's simple. She doesn't know me well. She knows Phil quite well, and it seems that she trusts and respects him (which is good in a relationship). Phil thinks I'm a terrible person, and he has been telling people lies about me for quite a while. Given those circumstances, I think I was fully justified in suspecting (at the time) that Allison was beginning to believe his lies. Things have seemed a bit different lately, though. The last time I saw Allison, she was very friendly with me. Thus far, she has not joined with the three of you in attacking me over rumors and misconceptions. Happily, it seems that I was wrong about her. At this point, I have no reason to suspect that she has accepted Phil's irrational opinion of me. If she has, she has not indicated it to me. I have no problem with Allison.
Second, I never said Phil had convinced any of you not to associate with Brigid. I'm not sure where you got that idea. For a time, Brigid and I were both concerned that some of you were avoiding her because of me. For a time, it seemed that way. Did you read her LiveJournal recently? She was worried about it. Thankfully, that turns out not to have been the case with you. I am glad you are still going to be her friend, even though you think I'm an asshole. Phil, on the other hand, has cut all ties to her, and I think that's a shame. She is very disappointed by it. He's been ignoring her online for a while, and he has made no attempt to see her since she's been back in town. In a recent post, he even admitted that he is avoiding us both until he has time to warm up to the situation. I think that is a terrible way to treat a friend. A far as friendship goes, I think that Phil has failed Brigid. She's been under a lot of stress recently. She's lost one friend (Andrea) because of her involvement with me, and her mom kicked her out of her house. She could really use the support of her friends right now, and Phil has not been there for her. In any case, I can't imagine why you would accuse me of suggesting that Phil can exert "mind control" powers over you or anyone else. Quite the contrary, in fact. Given what I've seen of him thus far, I can't imagine why anyone would take his opinions seriously. They simply are not reasonable.
Third, I don't hate you. I grouped the three of you together as people who gossip, who are quick to believe rumors, and who tend to form very harsh opinions of people based on things of which you know nothing. I for varying reasons, I don't have a particularly high opinion of you three. However, my problems are only based on what has been confirmed either with my own eyes or through several credible witnesses. If one person tells me that someone is saying something about me behind my back, I take it with a grain of salt. Even if I hear it from a trusted friend, I still would grant the rumor nothing beyond provisional acceptance. But when I hear from several different trusted friends that someone has been saying things about me behind my back, I believe there is some truth to it. For that reason, I think all three of you are prone to gossip. I also think that all three of you are prone to brashly and prematurely forming opinions of people based on the gossip you hear. And, once you have formed a poor opinion of someone, you do not deal with it constructively. You lash out immediately with personal attacks, instead of trying to get to the bottom of the situation. Instead of giving the benefit of the doubt to someone (such as myself) that is trusted by one of your close friends (such as Brigid), you jump to the most irrational and outlandish conclusions. Brandi, though I knew you had helped spread a few rumors about me, until your post earlier today (the one where you accuse me of being an "asshole") I never had reason to suspect you had such animosity toward me. If that was just a knee-jerk reaction and you are still willing to try and get along with me, I certainly will reciprocate. Rest assured that I do not hate you. I am just disappointed with how quickly you have begun attacking me, and that your attacks are the result of gross misinterpretations of what I have written. I am always willing to reconsider my opinions, though. They are not carved in stone. A simple gesture of goodwill is all it takes to turn things around. I believe that I have shown mine toward you all. With you, Phil, and Andrea, I have made attempts to settle our differences in a more private forum. I am still willing to do so (and would prefer to do so) if you all are willing. Do not think (as Phil has suggested) that I am a "candidate for friendship." I am not campaigning for anything for my own sake. I don't need friends who are so quick to attack me so vehemently. I don't want to cost Brigid any friends, though, and it would be less strain on us all if we could find a way to get along. Whether we like each other or not, we are bound to cross paths. The less hostility there is, the easier it will be on our mutual friends.
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:00 am
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| machrichelieu wrote: | Perhaps you have never completely appreciated the art of writing. The objective is not to beset your audience with exorbitant, artistical flourishes, but rather to craft your message in a way which best suits the particular group to which you write. It is quite apparent that you have never fully comprehended this most ponderous detail.
Our current audience is not comprised of scholars, but rather of ordinary individuals. Therefore I find it best not to inundate them with ornate language. Always remember that a good writer writes to the audience, not to flaunt a supposed talent which he or she may harbor.
Biatch.
| Andrew wrote: | | machrichelieu wrote: | damn andrew, you sound like the kind of person who tries to write real smart and stuff just so people think you're intelligent, when in reality you're just a dumbass... why do you have to write so condescendingly?
I agree, you are an asshole. |
C'mon, man, don't hate me because of my writing skills. Perhaps you should polish your own. Then you might not feel so inadequate. |
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I write in order to most effectively and efficiently express whatever I intend to say. I'm sorry if my vocabulary confuses you. Buy a dictionary.
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Ichiban
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:05 am
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| Andrew wrote: |
Don't worry, Boomer, this fight between Phil and me has nothing to do with you. The animosity between us predates this thread by a few months. If you read some of the other threads, you can find out exactly what I don't like about him. I'm still waiting on him to explain his problems with me, however. |
Gee, I thought me pointing out my point of view would help that. Guess people who are so full of themselves are kinda blind, eh? I should know, we can smell our own. 
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Ichiban
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:54 am
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Ok, I think I understand now Drew, you get hostile, and twist my words around, when I simply point out the fact that I chose to step aside for a while. I suppose I should clear up yet another heap of bullshit, and try once again.
| Andrew wrote: | | He's been ignoring her online for a while, and he has made no attempt to see her since she's been back in town. |
#1: I haven't ignored anyone. Got logs? Got proof? Anytime any one of my friends msgs me I respond instantly. I have received 0 messages thus far.. and anything else you respond to this FACT would be an assumption.
#2: It's called working for a living. I know the concept of 40-60 hours a week at a job may seem alien to you, but hey, you're a student, so you can relate, sort of. Tack on church life, which adds about 20 more hours a week. Now tack on the fact that I'm in the process of handling a few things that really have no bearing whatsoever to you, Brigid, or any of this drama-centered bullshit that you and i can't seem to stop spewing.
| Andrew wrote: | | I think that is a terrible way to treat a friend. |
Me too. I'd be pissed at myself if your argument wasn't based on assumption, and totally off the mark 
| Andrew wrote: | Let's see, where did I get the idea that Phil and Andrea spread rumors about me? Well, I put that one together when I heard from about a half dozen different people some of the things (untrue) that they had been saying about me behind my back. Pretty good reasoning, huh? In any case, whether it is because of rumors you heard or just your own overactive imagination, you have some pretty warped ideas about me.
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So.. you assumed the rumors were true and started swinging eh? Good reasoning indeed. Why don't you go ahead and make a list of the rumors! This thread's going to be a long one anyways.
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Thus far, she has not joined with the three of you in attacking me over rumors and misconceptions
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Attacking? You've jumped on everyone who's taken Andrea's side from the beginning. I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from, and all I get from you is insults, condescending remarks, and you being a general jackass 24/7 in response. Sure, I'll whip up a political argument in a heartbeat, it's what's good about this country, people can do that and not get shot over it... but once it turned to this, I tried to post my point of view, and you just tried to twist the simple truth in it to attack me further.. not to mention filling your "point of view" with even MORE attacks on me.
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At this point, I have no reason to suspect that she has accepted Phil's irrational opinion of me
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Hmm. That one is a hit. -nod- I don't know you as well as I should. However, you, also, have a very limited view of who I am as well.. so we're basically both up shit creek there. I suppose we both assume a lot.
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She could really use the support of her friends right now, and Phil has not been there for her
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All she ever has to do is ask, and I'd be there as fast as I can. I owe her a lot for being who she is, and I'd go through anything, or anyone, to help her smile. Thus far I haven't heard a thing from her. Guess the hostility radiating from you and I kinda hinders her reaching out eh?
| Andrew wrote: | Given what I've seen of him thus far, I can't imagine why anyone would take his opinions seriously
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Because underneath the joking, once you get to my serious side, I speak from the heart. Of course, the chances of me going there here.. well.. . probably more likely, since it seems it'll be the only way to get you to shut up (Smile asshole, it's a joke.)
| Andrew wrote: | I also think that all three of you are prone to brashly and prematurely forming opinions of people based on the gossip you hear. And, once you have formed a poor opinion of someone, you do not deal with it constructively. You lash out immediately with personal attacks, instead of trying to get to the bottom of the situation
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*looks up at Brandi and Mach's posts* Yeah.. pot.. kettle.. black.
As far as the rest goes. I don't hate anyone. I never have, and I never will. I have, however, grown past the stage in my life where I put myself in certain situations when I know I have more pressing demands on me. I apologize for not putting you at the top of my priority list.  As far as gestures of good will go.. I think I offered one...
| Brigid wrote: | | Ichiban wrote: | I dunno, just name something this weekend after friday
thurs and friday i'm gone, unless you and bri want to come out to catch "The Notebook" on friday .. and cry a lot *sniffle* |
I soooooo want to see that movie and cry a lot!!
But...I have to work friday 4-10  |
Unlike what you've said.. I don't "run" from confrontations. Have I run yet? I'm just as stubborn as you are. I'd be more than happy to get these assumations out of the way, talk, do whatever it took to stop making these threads surpass all known Tigeru records.
*yawN* I'm going to bed now.
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Ichiban
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:03 am
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| Andrew wrote: | Phil, I don't know much about your background with relationships. Perhaps you're just inexperienced. Or, perhaps you just haven't learned from your experiences. If you understood the way these things work, you would know that relationships can be complex, and that there are always at least two sides to a story.
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I am totally going to have to handle this after I get some shut eye. I can barely see the screen.
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rwnugent
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:31 am
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Phil is a post count whore.
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lsugroovychlck
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 2:58 pm
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All I'd like to know is what rumors have I started? I mean HOW CAN I POSSIBLY START ANY RUMORS WHEN I'VE BEEN 60 MILES AWAY IN THE FOREST AND GONE FOR 4 WEEKS?????????????? Explain that one to me.
Other than that it's, blah blah blah.
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Mooshell
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:11 pm
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sorry to make light of a somewhat serious situation...
But geez... people really should think twice before asking where they can get a bumper sticker around here
and while I'm butting in to none of my business... I've talked to Brigid before, she's an intelligent girl and I'm sure she can handle her friendships on her own. Maybe Brigid should be allowed to handle her own business and friendships, instead of it being turned into a Tigeru drama.
Just a thought. Please don't attack me
*hugs all around*
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lsugroovychlck
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:20 pm
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I agree Michelle. Brigid should speak for herself and not let anyone else (ie. Andrew) speak for her. Only she can say how she feels etc.
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rwnugent
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Fri Jul 16, 2004 3:22 pm
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| Mooshell wrote: | | ...she's an intelligent girl... |
That is an oxymoron. It's just not possible.
hahahahaha y'all know i'm playin. maybe
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