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JenniferE
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| rwnugent wrote: | | Actually it is a proven fact that Wal-Mart hurts buisinesses in many ways... |
Thank you
| rwnugent wrote: | | JenniferE wrote: | | You should become more educated on the subject. I'm on unemployment. That requires you to apply for at least one job a week. |
That is bullshit. As a matter of fact I usually try to see how long I can avoid work while I am drawing unemployment. Also I sometimes draw it while I am working. hahahahaha |
Well, yes, there are several ways you can avoid working. Or even applying. I mean, all you really have to do is fill out an application and not include your phone number or something. Maybe I did word this wrong, though. They require you to make at least one job contact a week. Which includes simply making a phone call, etc. Unless you're going to school. In that case, you don't have to look for work at all. I just didn't report to them that I attend school. But every 3 weeks I have to send in my eligibility review, showing that I've been searching for work...and yeah, you can draw it while working. It's illegal if it goes over a certain amount, but that doesn't make it impossible. Actually, I think I'll be drawing it myself while working. *shrug* I'm greedy. Oh well.
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JenniferE
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| rwnugent wrote: | | From the other side of this argument. I have to agree that Wal-Mart has developed a very lucrative and ingenious way of doing buisiness and it is simple common sense that it benefits the general public. They have everythign you need under one roof and it is almost always cheaper than you can find it anywhere else. If it did not benefit the common consumer Wal-Mart would not be as big as it is today, plain and simple. |
True, true. Which is why I said it depends on how you look at it. It benefits consumers at the cost of employees. And yes, that's just how businesses work...completely understandable.
I was just giving my opinion as an employee. I choose not to shop at Wal-Mart often. That's my choice. As a consumer, I choose to shop at Target over Wal-Mart. There are several reasons I like Target more. Again, that is my choice.
Hell, I'm not even sure what the argument's about anymore. I agree that it's so off-topic that now I think I'm just being challenged for my decision to collect unemployment...which I have a right to do, so it should be a non-issue.
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rwnugent
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 11:48 am
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| JenniferE wrote: | | I was just giving my opinion as an employee. I choose not to shop at Wal-Mart often. That's my choice. As a consumer, I choose to shop at Target over Wal-Mart. There are several reasons I like Target more. Again, that is my choice. |
Yeah I don't go to Wal-Mart that often either. I prefer Target because it is closer to my apt. and it is usually not as crowded. Plus the Super Target on Siegen pretty much has everything that Wal-Mart has and for about the same price.
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MrTrunks
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:17 pm
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| JenniferE wrote: |
I'm not really clear on what you're trying to say...I still blame Wal-Mart for the loss of my job, and the loss of many other jobs. And in case someone tries to argue this against me, it would not benefit me to go work at the new Wal-Mart, because I would be getting paid less. People I worked with who went to Wal-Mart went from $12/hour to $7/hour. They can't find jobs anywhere else.
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I don’t know about your specific case. IMHO, Wal-Mart did not make you loss your job. The people of your community fired you. Your work place lost your job by not being competitive enough.
Whether for good or bad, Wal-Mart does something few other retailers can do. They make demands of manufactures in the name of the consumer. At one time if consumers wanted a product to change, they had to fight tooth and nail for it. Consumer safety groups, toy testing groups, product testing. They US has a whole industry for this consumer power type stuff, look at Consumer Reports magazine or Adbusters, or one of the other many periodicals on the subject.
No understand that Walmart can where other retailers can not, made demand of large manufactures. If Walmart only wants polyfilled animals with out fragile buttons for eyes, they get them, within the night. It once took consumers 4 years to get something like this done, requiring the government to make legislation, and import tariffs about it force manufactures to do what consumers wanted.
From the perspective of the United States I do not know how much Wal-Mart is hurting or helping the economy at large. My intuition would say that outsourcing manufacturing not a good long term plan. But the government has ways to control this with tariffs or import taxes etc. If people have a problem with Wal-Mart they should stand up for them selfs.
Take California.
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JenniferE
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| MrTrunks wrote: | | I don’t know about your specific case. IMHO, Wal-Mart did not make you loss your job. The people of your community fired you. Your work place lost your job by not being competitive enough. |
I wasn't fired...I was a part of a mass lay-off.
Your opinion's fine and all...it's just extremely tough to compete with Wal-Mart. Different methods are being tried, and none of them are working. Maybe the problem lies within how to compete effectively? Because nothing's working right now.
| MrTrunks wrote: | ...Whether for good or bad, Wal-Mart does something few other retailers can do....From the perspective of the United States I do not know how much Wal-Mart is hurting or helping the economy at large. My intuition would say that outsourcing manufacturing not a good long term plan. But the government has ways to control this with tariffs or import taxes etc. If people have a problem with Wal-Mart they should stand up for them selfs.
Take California. |
Which is why I've said it depends how you look at it 
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MrTrunks
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:57 pm
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| JenniferE wrote: |
Your opinion's fine and all...it's just extremely tough to compete with Wal-Mart. Different methods are being tried, and none of them are working. Maybe the problem lies within how to compete effectively? Because nothing's working right now.
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Whole Foods
http://www.wholefoods.com/
Trader Joes
http://www.traderjoes.com/
both are stores that have built up in age of walmart, around walmart and both are great. to say nothings working is a slight exageration
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| MrTrunks wrote: | | both are stores that have built up in age of walmart, around walmart and both are great. to say nothings working is a slight exageration |
Hmm..didn't know about those stores. Never heard of them. My mistake. Really, I was just basing what I said off of what's happening in Gonzales, my old community in Houston, and a few other places I've had experience in. So..I'm sure there are methods out there. But no doubt, you have to admit that it could be difficult to build a new store next to Wal-Mart and expect everything to run smoothly.
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MrTrunks
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| JenniferE wrote: | | MrTrunks wrote: | | both are stores that have built up in age of walmart, around walmart and both are great. to say nothings working is a slight exageration |
Hmm..didn't know about those stores. Never heard of them. My mistake. Really, I was just basing what I said off of what's happening in Gonzales, my old community in Houston, and a few other places I've had experience in. So..I'm sure there are methods out there. But no doubt, you have to admit that it could be difficult to build a new store next to Wal-Mart and expect everything to run smoothly. |
In Missouri it is an epidemic patter. When they build a new Wal-Mart they also build a few other places very near it.
Herbert sports – a sporting good store (sans camping/hunting), a very small one, like the size of a McDonald’s, not like Academy.
Sally Beauty Supply – a cosmetics and hair care place. for regional hair and spa stuff.
Game Zone, or game trader. – used video game place.
Glicks / Fashion bug. – original run clothing store. (not like TJ Max)
McDonalds – if not in the Walmart it self, a new one will spring up very close, or the existing one may move closer.
I am pretty convinced that 80% or Herburt sports are right next to a Wal-Mart.
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Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:31 pm
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In Missouri it is an epidemic patter. When they build a new Wal-Mart they also build a few other places very near it.
Herbert sports – a sporting good store (sans camping/hunting), a very small one, like the size of a McDonald’s, not like Academy.
Sally Beauty Supply – a cosmetics and hair care place. for regional hair and spa stuff.
Game Zone, or game trader. – used video game place.
Glicks / Fashion bug. – original run clothing store. (not like TJ Max)
McDonalds – if not in the Walmart it self, a new one will spring up very close, or the existing one may move closer.
I am pretty convinced that 80% or Herburt sports are right next to a Wal-Mart. |
I have noticed that. A lot of large chains do build their stores that way. When I said it would be hard to build a profitable store next to Wal-Mart, I meant, a store on that level. Like, yes, Wal-Mart sells gaming devices and beauty supplies...I admittedly would prefer going into the smaller stores built up around Wal-Mart that specialize in those products. But...I'm just going to use Gonzales as an example. When Wal-Mart converted to a Supercenter, the Delchamps nearby shut down almost immediately. There are a K-Mart and Winn-Dixie nearly across the street. I'm surprised they're still open. I think they're making enough money just to get by--they're always dead. Albertsons was down the street. I admit they closed mainly because of high prices. Not sure why the new store's not doing well with cut prices, though. I just meant that you would have to have a great gimmick or strategy to be able to open up a store (like a grocery store or store similar to K-Mart or Target or something) next to an already-existing Wal-Mart. Which yeah, probably isn't impossible, but it is still difficult.
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I know my company deals with Walmart, Albertsons, Winn Dixie's etc... every day. I haven't had to do the Gonzales route in a while, but I will say that of all the stores that my company does business with Albertsons charged the highest price while Winn Dixie actually ahd the cheapest price on my company's products other then Diet Rite flavors 12 packs and the Big Shot two liters(only walmart in DS carries that though). From what I can see though advertisements don't really work much for the competitors because if it's a print ad then Walmart will match the ad. If a store just always had some kind of daily special deal runing on for customers inside of the store then they seem to attract more business. Also a lot of the Walmarts are shifting to a smaller amount of backstock even though they usually have a lot of room in teh warehouse area. If people keep finding that certain items are "out" at Walmart when they want to buy them then they will start going to the competitors first. The problem comes from most of the competitors not wanting to have much backstock or at least from my company's perspective. If they want the backstock then I find those stores do tend to do a lot better. Sorry for the ramble but I'm tired.
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I know my company deals with Walmart, Albertsons, Winn Dixie's etc... every day. I haven't had to do the Gonzales route in a while, but I will say that of all the stores that my company does business with Albertsons charged the highest price while Winn Dixie actually ahd the cheapest price on my company's products other then Diet Rite flavors 12 packs and the Big Shot two liters(only walmart in DS carries that though). From what I can see though advertisements don't really work much for the competitors because if it's a print ad then Walmart will match the ad. If a store just always had some kind of daily special deal runing on for customers inside of the store then they seem to attract more business. Also a lot of the Walmarts are shifting to a smaller amount of backstock even though they usually have a lot of room in teh warehouse area. If people keep finding that certain items are "out" at Walmart when they want to buy them then they will start going to the competitors first. The problem comes from most of the competitors not wanting to have much backstock or at least from my company's perspective. If they want the backstock then I find those stores do tend to do a lot better. Sorry for the ramble but I'm tired.
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Also a lot of the Walmarts are shifting to a smaller amount of backstock even though they usually have a lot of room in teh warehouse area. If people keep finding that certain items are "out" at Walmart when they want to buy them then they will start going to the competitors first. The problem comes from most of the competitors not wanting to have much backstock or at least from my company's perspective. If they want the backstock then I find those stores do tend to do a lot better. Sorry for the ramble but I'm tired. |
That's a good perspective. It makes sense. It always depends on how well Wal-Mart stocks the items, though. My store always had tons of backstock. But that was only because we had no business, and whatever we bought wasn't sold. Really, we had so much backstock it was ridiculous. But then...my brother was a grocery manager at Highland. They had very little backstock and are still doing very well. I've been told it's Albertson's goal to keep backstock down. So that is a good way to look at it, since a lot of stores probably aim to keep the amount of backstock low.
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Ok godamnit, enough about Wal-Mart. It is the Evil Empire, I agree but let's face it, they are never going out of buisiness, at least not until the Dow Jones Industrial Average gets dropped from the NYSE. That's the equvalent of hell freezing over people. If you don't want to do buisiness with them then fine, don't, but please stop bitching about it. I hate going to Wal-Mart as much as I hate George W. Bush. Instead I just go to Super Target, which is the same thing as Wal-Mart only they caught on about 20 years too late. Either way just fuck it and either shop somewhere else or start making/growing everything you need.
btw if you're ever in Top Cats Cabaret look for a girl named Tyla, that chick is hot! Ok g'night sleep tight, don't let the bedbugs bite. Peace out bitches, catch y'all next week.
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