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MrTrunks
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Fri Sep 10, 2004 4:35 pm
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| HeadSlash wrote: |
BTW a pump or semi-automatic shotgun is far more deadly than an automatic rifle. |
From online games I understand that it is very difficult to take someone down at great range with a shot gun, while the assault rifle will.
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HeadSlash
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Assault Weapons Ban? What a joke, nothing more than feel good warm and fuzzy liberal legislation. OK so now I can't buy an AR-15 with a flash suppressor, bayonet lug or collapsible stock. BFD. Do any of these make a weapon any less deadly? In fact the AK clones are now availible with the pistol grip stock rather than the thumbhole stocks before the ban because of a loophole allowing American made componants.
Surplus high capacity magazines have been availible since Clinton signed the bill, albeit at a much higher prices.
Mr. Trunks, any high powered rifle is better than a shotgun over longer ranges but for personal or home defense a shotgun with 00 buck is lethal. Consider the multiple wound channels and shear force.
Even the sound of racking a pump shotgun is intimidating.
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MrTrunks
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Fri Sep 10, 2004 5:18 pm
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Mr. Trunks, any high powered rifle is better than a shotgun over longer ranges but for personal or home defense a shotgun with 00 buck is lethal. [quote]
I have never had the choice of ammunition in a FPS. I think the best thing about the assault weapon ban ending is the hi capacity magazines will be back in style, so you can take the Thomason out with its big Chicago traditional round mag.
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rwnugent
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Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:31 pm
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| HeadSlash wrote: | Assault Weapons Ban? What a joke, nothing more than feel good warm and fuzzy liberal legislation. OK so now I can't buy an AR-15 with a flash suppressor, bayonet lug or collapsible stock. BFD. Do any of these make a weapon any less deadly? In fact the AK clones are now availible with the pistol grip stock rather than the thumbhole stocks before the ban because of a loophole allowing American made componants.
Surplus high capacity magazines have been availible since Clinton signed the bill, albeit at a much higher prices.
Mr. Trunks, any high powered rifle is better than a shotgun over longer ranges but for personal or home defense a shotgun with 00 buck is lethal. Consider the multiple wound channels and shear force.
Even the sound of racking a pump shotgun is intimidating. |
All the assault weapon ban really bans is fully automatic weapons and prohibits any alterations being made to a firearm after it leaves the factory, i.e. sawed-off shotguns and installing fully automatic firing kits on rifles. I know it is perfectly legal to have a 30 round magazine on an SKS b/c I own one and it has been looked at by several Wildlife and Fisheries agents as well federal wildlife agents.
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Faung
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:37 pm
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| Quote: | | You dont need an AK-47 to hunt deer. |
Thats bull shit!!! Every real drung russian guy needs ak-47 for hunting!!
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communist
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:01 pm
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hello tovarich 
u need ak-47 to everythink that u do
u need it in the super market,
in the gass station,
every where!!!
and remember!! Vietcongs used ak-47 to win u redneck boys in vietnam  
thak you tovarich
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Faung
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Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:15 pm
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And do you know tovaririch why every one use ak-47?!?!? Because its the BEST rifle in the whole world!!!!!
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russiansksman
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I am not an NRA member but am joining and all my family is I love guns and as for this discussion I think a line from an old movie sums it up "Better armed citizens mean better behaved criminals" Would the columbine shooting have happened had the teachers kept a pistol in a locked desk drawer? History has shown when guns are banned countries are taken over by the very guns they ban. I own a russian sks and yes i pimped it out as much as the law allows I made a shooting range in the country with old vehicles clays and cutouts and it's hella fun I buy a junk car haul it in shoot it to peices then have it shipped out for scrap. Anyhow though ak's sks's m-16's ar-15's and the likes should in my opinion be legally sold with the original semi,tripple burst, and full auto switches. Yet another example how many people do you think the dc sniper would have got to had the bystanders been weilding ak's? Also with all the terrorist threats out there and the US military being spread out in other countries I like knowing that me and half the people in my town are armed the day i see a guy wearing a turbin walking down the street with a full auto unloading on everything he sees i can and will answer back. Taking guns from the citizens is in no way productive. Look at gangs in LA and other places they can get full auto uzi's and all and citizens can't? wonder if the LA riots would have lasted as long if every house had ak's and uzi's pointed out the window? Just as the title implies these are my thoughts and opinions all will not agree and I am sure I will get some replies for this one but people need to wake up to the facts and open their eyes a gun weilding criminal can easily modify an sks ak or similar rifle all the way down to semi auto 22's manufactured in this country to full auto and take out 50 people in a busy street before the cops get there citizens are first on the scene in almost every crime and I am sure if anyone has been in a situation where held hostage or witnessed someone be killed they would agree..
Thanks for you time reading and reply i would love to hear people true thoughts on this not just yes i agree or no i don't debate with me..
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rwnugent
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Sun Feb 13, 2005 3:41 pm
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I really don't see how every citizen walking down the street with a fully automatic assault rifle would improve anything. There is no reason for anyone to own a fully automatic rifle. Did you think about what would happen if your average 9-5 office worker has a bad day and then someone cuts him off on the interstate and he just happens to have an AK in the car? Then of course everyone else on the road would have one too and you can imagine the end result. If you legalize weapons like that then the police can't even arrest the real criminals who carry them. Let's say one of the teachers at Columbine high school had a gun in his/her classroom. What if one of the students decided to find it and use it then you don't have to worry about kids bringing guns in they already have them there. In that scenario I could agree that maybe the principal could have one locked in a safe in his office but what if the need to use it did arise. Unless he was directly threatened by the shooters he still couldn't legally shoot someone. I can understand and agree with most of your thoughts but some of them are slightly extreme.
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ROEGUN
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Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:25 pm
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I think that you guys are making statements that lean towards you believing that the NRA is all about being able to shoot fully automatic weapons which its not. As a member of the NRA I feel I have to say that while the full autos are fun to shoot, the NRA is all about keeping the freedom given to us by the second amendment which is the right to bare arms. Keeping this amendment means the right to own a gun and shoot it with out being harased for that simple pleasure. I feel that you guys have brought forward many good points, but I had to step up on the soap box for a minute. With that said, what the heck do you guys find so appealing about a damned AK47 and SKS? My god they are like shooting a clunking tin can full of ammunition. I have to say the feel of the M16 and AR 15 is much more appealing to me.
Please fill me in on why you guys feel the AK and SKS are such great guns - please be specific - no BS just facts. Thanks
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ROEGUN
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Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:14 am
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If you guys want to shoot something fun try a Mac 10 in .45 - those little babies really lay out the lead. I would have to say that the Mac 10 is my most favorite sub machine gun. I also like the NIB UZI in .45ACP and the IMI UZI in 9mm both very fun to shoot.
If you want something that will kick the crap out of the AK47, see if you can find anyone that has and will let you shoot a BAR (M1918A2 BAR) this is a WWI & II era rifle semi or fully auto - thus the name BAR = Browning Automatic Rifle. The BAR is a 30-06 caliber rifle that really lays the fire down. Here is a link if you would like to see what one looks like. http://www.rt66.com/~korteng/SmallArms/browning.htm
I shot one of these when I was about 12 and have been a fan of them ever since. This puppy will lay out 550 rounds per minuite and hit consistantly up to about 600 yards with a muzzle velocity of about 2800 fps. Now caomparing that to the AK with a muzzle velocity of about 2100 fps the old browning packs a bit more punch. I have seen a 30-06 capable of cleanly hitting 600yd shots and have heard stories of them pulling off 1000 yrd kills in Veit Nam - I don't know how true thos stories are, but have never heard of how consistant the AK can be for yardage of 600 +. If any of you have info on this I would be veryinterested to hear about it.
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Billybob
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Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:56 am
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Could any of you possibly tell me where someone can make me a high-velocity sniper's rifle, that could be disguised as a walking stick? It is for purely recreational sniping, you understand, and would not be used in acts of politically-motivated terror. I give you my word on that. I am not a murderer. Why would I wish to kill my fellow man, unless he was sinning?
Money is no object, but it must be accurate enough consistently to bring down sinners at distances of up to half a mile. I would never, I assure you, take up arms to smite my fellow man, without detailed and specific instructions from God our father, or one of his angels. Woe unto the heathen on that day! The Lord shall dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
Please send me estimates on price, delivery time, etc. And could you get hold of some explosive-tipped ammunition (for the "right price", naturally)? If the worst came to the worst, and we were absolutely forced to liquidate a heathen, we wouldn't want to leave any ballistic evidence, you see.
But we pray it will never come to that.
Awake unto righteousness, and sin not
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LEstay
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Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:37 am
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Um yeah you're a psycho.
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rwnugent
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Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:13 am
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for once lando i agree with you
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Billybob
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Why? just cos i want to protect myself when the heathens come unto us with bombs? All i want to do is be armed and ready. If one of them comes at me, WHAM, he's coming no further. I see it as my civil right to be able to protect myself. Especially from the turban heads.
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