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TigerWeekly
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Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:29 pm
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| By Shane Foster Did you hear this one?
Fred: “You know, Tom, I went to Catholic school.”
Tom: “That’s funny, Fred, I always thought you were agnostic.”
Fred: “Well yes, I am. Didn’t you hear me? I went to Catholic school.”
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bonniebleu
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I think this is brilliant!! This writer should write a book! I have never seen such passion, such conviction. The cell phone incident is so wrong.
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Norris
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Fuck that pussy. I hate Tiger Weekly! I'm sorry for his loss, but his grandfather did not receive disrespect. By the way, I am Catholic, I think the religion is seriously flawed, but they did nothing to offend that dude. Fuck him and TW for printing that piece of shit.
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_MagnoliA_
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I'm sorry that person feels that way, and I am sorry that their grandfather died. But for the priest and that organist, the Pope was more important and that had to do what they did. I'm not saying it offends less...but for many devote catholics the Pope is as dear to them as their grandfathers. I grew up catholic also, and I have been offended more times by non catholics than catholic people. and I would consider myself someone who is mostly agnostic and keeps her religious beliefs to themselves. I just wish people would stop grouping all catholics together, because not everyone is alike. Jews get offended when christians group them together for killing Christ, or Muslims get offended for grouping them with the terrorists all the time. Every religion has their bad apples, and it only shows ignorance on a person's behalf if all they -want- to see is the bad side.
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patrickr
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Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:31 am
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If his grandfather was infallible too, maybe he has a case.
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Adam
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Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:43 am
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The kid has no grounds on which to feel surprised at anything but the timing. The hierarchy in the Catholic church is very clear, and it should be no less than expected that the church drop everything when the guy at the top dies. He's complaining about something that is inevitable (ie, he's bitching).
When your grandfather dies, just take the blow. He's an old man. It's not like you found your 9-yr old in a ditch or something.
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Dewy
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Damn, I've never seen so many cold-hearted bastards in one place.
First of all, I don't know anyone who can clearly group Catholics together since they cant group themselves. Some Catholics consider themselves to be Christians while others consider Catholics and Christians to be completely seperate. Catholics can partake of the Eucharist (forgive me if I spelled it wrong) while Christians cant.
Secondly, stupid people say stupid stuff, and that stupid stuff is what offends people. I don't like it when stupid people try to defend a particular belief. They usually end up botching the job.
Thirdly, the Jews did kill Christ. Granted it wasn't today's Jews. But it doesn't make sense to group modern Jews with the Jews of the past since Christ can't be killed again and He was supposed to die. So it doesn't really make much sense to hate the Jews. If they hadn't killed Him a lot of crap would be screwed up today. So, good job Jews.
And another thing... Islam is bad, Muslims are confused. The teaching of Islam calls for bloodshed, namely that of the Jews along with any unbeliever. Islam is a religion tought around killing. Try studying it for a while and you'll see.
Every religion doesn't have a bad apple. Sometimes the religions themselves are bad apples. And it only shows your ignorance for not accepting the truth.
A death is a death no matter how you look at it. And it's sad that some people's lives are valued more than others. We are all the children of God and in that respect we are all equal. It is a shame that such a thing would happen just because someone had the title of Pope tacked on before his name.
And for those of you Catholics out there... I feel sorry for you... the Pope isn't that great of a man. I mean look at what is going on. People are trying to redefine the standing of the church. Trying to modernize it. Trying to change things that "God" established through Christ and Peter. What the hell? You'd think that if God was doing it, He'd have it perfect the first time and not need to change anything. But noooo.... everytime a new Pope comes into office something HAS to be changed. Just look back through the history of the Catholic church. At all the amendments made to the Catholic doctrine. And be sure to note how many years had to pass in between each amendment. Why not have em all at once? Or better yet... why not just have them all done before the church was even established? no, sorry, not good enough... the Popes need a reason to be remembered, and since they are infallable no one can argue with them. They are automatically correct in everything they do, or at least, that's what the church teaches... what a load of bull. BS, that's the catholic doctrine right there. And I seriously hope I offended some people.
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patrickr
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| Dewy wrote: | | And for those of you Catholics out there... I feel sorry for you... the Pope isn't that great of a man. I mean look at what is going on. People are trying to redefine the standing of the church. Trying to modernize it. Trying to change things that "God" established through Christ and Peter. What the hell? You'd think that if God was doing it, He'd have it perfect the first time and not need to change anything. But noooo.... everytime a new Pope comes into office something HAS to be changed. Just look back through the history of the Catholic church. At all the amendments made to the Catholic doctrine. And be sure to note how many years had to pass in between each amendment. Why not have em all at once? Or better yet... why not just have them all done before the church was even established? no, sorry, not good enough... the Popes need a reason to be remembered, and since they are infallable no one can argue with them. They are automatically correct in everything they do, or at least, that's what the church teaches... what a load of bull. BS, that's the catholic doctrine right there. And I seriously hope I offended some people. |
Wow, all these years I've been a fool! A fool, I say! I've been bamboozled, hoodwinked even!
This Dewy guy clearly knows a lot more than us.
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Adam
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Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:38 pm
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| Dewy wrote: | | Islam is a religion tought around killing. Try studying it for a while and you'll see. |
You could argue the same about Judaism and Christianity, as evidenced by the book of Exodus. (IE, I hope your mom never touched you while she was ovulating).
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_MagnoliA_
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Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:23 pm
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THIS IS NORRIS WHO WROTE THIS!!!
| Dewy wrote: | Damn, I've never seen so many cold-hearted bastards in one place.
First of all, I don't know anyone who can clearly group Catholics together since they cant group themselves. Some Catholics consider themselves to be Christians while others consider Catholics and Christians to be completely seperate. Catholics can partake of the Eucharist (forgive me if I spelled it wrong) while Christians cant.
Secondly, stupid people say stupid stuff, and that stupid stuff is what offends people. I don't like it when stupid people try to defend a particular belief. They usually end up botching the job.
Thirdly, the Jews did kill Christ. Granted it wasn't today's Jews. But it doesn't make sense to group modern Jews with the Jews of the past since Christ can't be killed again and He was supposed to die. So it doesn't really make much sense to hate the Jews. If they hadn't killed Him a lot of crap would be screwed up today. So, good job Jews.
And another thing... Islam is bad, Muslims are confused. The teaching of Islam calls for bloodshed, namely that of the Jews along with any unbeliever. Islam is a religion tought around killing. Try studying it for a while and you'll see.
Every religion doesn't have a bad apple. Sometimes the religions themselves are bad apples. And it only shows your ignorance for not accepting the truth.
A death is a death no matter how you look at it. And it's sad that some people's lives are valued more than others. We are all the children of God and in that respect we are all equal. It is a shame that such a thing would happen just because someone had the title of Pope tacked on before his name.
And for those of you Catholics out there... I feel sorry for you... the Pope isn't that great of a man. I mean look at what is going on. People are trying to redefine the standing of the church. Trying to modernize it. Trying to change things that "God" established through Christ and Peter. What the hell? You'd think that if God was doing it, He'd have it perfect the first time and not need to change anything. But noooo.... everytime a new Pope comes into office something HAS to be changed. Just look back through the history of the Catholic church. At all the amendments made to the Catholic doctrine. And be sure to note how many years had to pass in between each amendment. Why not have em all at once? Or better yet... why not just have them all done before the church was even established? no, sorry, not good enough... the Popes need a reason to be remembered, and since they are infallable no one can argue with them. They are automatically correct in everything they do, or at least, that's what the church teaches... what a load of bull. BS, that's the catholic doctrine right there. And I seriously hope I offended some people. |
I don't have anything against you, but that was a stupid response. Not because you have a different view, just because it is a lot of words that doesn't hold a lot of weight. However, good point about the Muslims. And I DO feel that certain people's lives should be valued above others. If anyone is put in a situation where they could save my life or the president's(unless it is the current one), I expect them to spit on my dead body and punch me in the face. That is all.
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Dewy
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Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:33 pm
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Damn fucking right I know more than you!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!! no, actually I dont.... Sorry bout that. I've just taken the time to do a piss load of research. I like to learn about other religions.
Sorry to disapoint you patrikr, but I'm a dumb shmuck like you.
And no Adam you really couldn't argue the same thing about Judaism or Christianity by using the book of Exodus. Maybe if you had spent a little more time reading it instead of trying to come up with a pithy rebutle... I've always wanted to say pithy... Exodus was about the Israelies flight out of egypt. Their return to the promised land. It had nothing to do with Christianity or Judaism in terms of how they should respond to other religions. It could be considered more a book of how we should trust in God to lead us through all our trials. Nothing in Exodus said anything about killing other religious followers. Neither did it say anything about ovulating. You prolly were thinking of another book. And no you couldn't argue the same arguement of Islam for Judaism or Christianity. Islam repeatedly calls for the death and killing of non-believers. They use a more colorful term, but it escapes me at the moment. And you're just a prick anyway. So go fuck a goat.
And so sorry to disapoint you _MagnoliA_ , that great work was not the product of Norris. Norris is too much a fucktard to be able to come up with something that good....
Yes certain people should be valued more, and our leaders are one of them. But, correct me if I'm wrong, the Pope wasn't gunned down in his hospital bed. He died of natural causes just as the guy's grandfather did. To interupt a funeral service being conducted to show "respect" for him was just plain disrespectful. No matter how you try to look at it, it was. The only way it wouldn't have been disrespectful is if it had been christ. But it wasn't, it was the Pope, and in death the pope is just another man.
And I'm not expecting my words to hold much weight, because they usually don't among the ignorant majority. I expect the evidence that supports my words to hold weight in the arguement.
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patrickr
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Hey, I wasn't being sarcastic. Obviously someone who has done a "piss load of research" knows his stuff. You probably have a "piss load" of knowledge which is actually a step above the Church who I think has only done a "shit load" of research. Now that I think about it, which one is bigger: a "shit load" or a "piss load?" I guess it depends on who's shit and/or piss you are referring to. I'm going to do an "ass load" of research on this topic then report back to you.
The problem is your "piss load" of research was all done third-hand, because I'm assuming by you referring to us as "you Catholics" that you aren't Catholic. If you were Catholic, you would know that the pope is not "just another man." I guess that never turned up in your "piss load of research." So really it's not even worth a "piss load" of my time to argue with you on this forum.
How can I even match the "piss load" of arguments you must have anyway?
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LEstay
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Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:15 am
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| Adam wrote: | | ...as evidenced by the book of Exodus. (IE, I hope your mom never touched you while she was ovulating). |
I believe that's Leviticus, not Exodus.
And if you do touch a woman who is ovulating, you're just unclean and have to make yourself "clean" again.
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enzfyr
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well, you might also be endangering your life, depending on the woman...  
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Dewy
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The pope being more than just another man is simply an opinion. It's just like saying the President is more of a man just because he is the president. And I am not reffering to the current one, because that alone would spur on another arguement.
And does it really matter how my research was done, wether first hand, second hand, or third hand.... maybe even fourth hand? No it doesn't. Because if someone who wasn't a catholic but was interested in becoming one would have to do the same research that I've done. Though I'm not trying to say that my research is perfect or complete. I'm still learning everyday. But to say that my research is not good enough just because I'm not catholic is flawed.... prolly misspelled that. But that's just the way Catholics think... and sorry for generalizing but a majority do.
Maybe if I was Catholic arguing this point my words would have more meaning. I don't need to be a chemist to know that H20 is water. All I have to do is read a chemistry book. It's the exact same thing. Now, the only thing does matter is who I reseasrch under. If I read a book by someone who is completely biased against or for the Catholic church then the research is invalid. I don't argue based solely on scripture and such, but also by history. I look at the actions of the Church and the Pope in the past and see if everything adds up.
If you had to be Catholic to argue Catholicism then there wouldn't be much arguing, because the Church is supposed to teach (I say supposed because I don't know if they do or don't for sure) that you aren't supposed to question anything scriptural. You are supposed to accept it as is. And if it's wrong, then the one who is going to suffer isn't you, but the priest who tought it to you.
And yes patrikr it is worth your time to argue your faith. It might be your words that shed light on my sorrowful exsistance and pull me from the darkness that I wallow in and bring me to a wonderful life within the Church and with the Pope...... And your a lying bastard.
Ovulating..... eeeewwwwwww!!!! 
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