 |
 |
Baton Rouge Links |
 |
|
|
Last 10 Logins |
|
|
|  |
|
| LSU Tigers Baton Rouge Louisiana: Forums |
|
|
|
|
|
|
TigerU.com Forum Index -> The Quad
| Printable Version |
 |
Author
|
Message |
View previous topic
:: View next topic |
 |
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
JasonB
Veteran Poster
Joined: Oct 15, 2004
Posts: 793
Points : 1218
Location: Baton Rouge
Status: Offline
|
 Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:38 am
Post subject: A letter to George W. Bush |
  |
|
Nevermind who this letter came from....if you can't agree with it...you need help.
Friday, September 2nd, 2005
Dear Mr. Bush:
Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted. Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot. Man, was that a drag.
Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to begin with?
Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!
I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps. Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?
And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!
On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.
There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out. Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that stretched from New York to Cleveland.
No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30 percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean, it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!
You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.
Yours,
Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
www.MichaelMoore.com
P.S. That annoying mother, Cindy Sheehan, is no longer at your ranch. She and dozens of other relatives of the Iraqi War dead are now driving across the country, stopping in many cities along the way. Maybe you can catch up with them before they get to DC on September 21st.
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
Sunny
Veteran Poster
Joined: Sep 20, 2003
Posts: 688
Points : 380
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:29 am
Post subject: |
  |
|
They should drop moore and sheehan in the middle of new orleans.
It was ok when she was protesting because her son died, but that doesn't make her a foriegn policy expert whose opinions need to be heard.
|
____________
No participation, No reciprication! |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
JasonB
Veteran Poster
Joined: Oct 15, 2004
Posts: 793
Points : 1218
Location: Baton Rouge
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:28 am
Post subject: |
|
|
so sunny, you don't agree with anything michael moore said?
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
Sunny
Veteran Poster
Joined: Sep 20, 2003
Posts: 688
Points : 380
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:41 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
nope. he has proven himself to be a liar time and time again, why should i believe him now.
And bush was there first thing wednesday morning. He couldn't flyback while the storm was still going on. It didn't just disappear after it hit nola and the coast, it kept moving. Secondly, he had to give his cabinet time to get the last assessments on the situation which they couldn't do until the day after the storm, which would be tuesday, and they had the meeting early wednesday morning. I notice that mr. moore conviently left out those facts.
As far as levee structures, did they just put the levee system in place in 2000? Im pretty sure i remember levees being there LOOOONG before then, as a matter of fact, im pretty sure they have been there almost as long as the city itself. Not to mention that some experts say the collapse could have been caused by all the additions without proper under supporting.
Also, i am pretty sure that the poverty in N.O. was there before George W. Bush was even born.
Global warming? There is no conclusive proof because they have only about 30 years worth of data on it. In theory global warming will bring on an ice age, and last time i checked those were cyclical events.
Katrina was barely a hurricane when it passed over, there is not even a comparison to be made.
If michael moore wanted an emotional reaction from me he should have been in the attic of a 10 foot house with 12 feet of water. That would have made me laugh hysterically.
|
____________
No participation, No reciprication! |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
JasonB
Veteran Poster
Joined: Oct 15, 2004
Posts: 793
Points : 1218
Location: Baton Rouge
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:13 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
wow, you are a heartless son of a bitch aren't you...
Where was bush wednesday morning? Was he reading a book about goats to little kids or something? When the shit hit the fan during the tsumani's they got help in another country faster then people got help here.
I'm glad to know that just because there was problems in america before bushy jr was given the presidency, he's not responsible for trying to fix anything.
Katrina was barely a hurricane when it passed over? Where do you live....Memphis? You certainly must not live anywhere in South Louisiana, because last I checked, we were without power for 4 days, and a piddly rainstorm doesn't do that to the power. I guess we can send all the people from New Orleans home because it was barely a hurricane when it passed over.
Ask the people in Biloxi if it was barely a hurricane when it passed over...
Thanking allah or your superpower of choice that I don't have to hear your suggestions tonight,
Jason
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
MrTrunks
Veteran Poster
Joined: Aug 22, 2004
Posts: 643
Points : 120
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:25 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
| Sunny wrote: |
In theory global warming will bring on an ice age, and last time i checked those were cyclical events.
|
FYI. Global warming theory… the Earth is getting warmer… not that we are going immediately into an ice age. Ice age would be global cooling.
| Sunny wrote: |
Katrina was barely a hurricane when it passed over, there is not even a comparison to be made.
|
This is like saying 20 feet of water is no big deal because it was predicted to be 35 feet?
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
Nema
From back in the day...
Joined: Dec 04, 2002
Posts: 21
Points : 28
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 2:54 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
so many things I could say, but unfortunatly I'm all argue'd out ...
Michael Moore is an idiot. I remember my grandma telling me when I was very young about why the streets in nola flooded so easily, I felt as if a small rainstorm effecting things there much more than here. She also told me if a hurricane ever hit, the city would be underwater. How many presidents have we had since then to fix that situation and I'm sure people have known about this for years before I was born. Mom used to talk about how lucky nola was after camille and betsy .... so what ... we've known since '65 and '69 ....
I'm so fucking tired of people playing the blame game post katrina.
Its about the levees, its about the wetlands, its about the pumps, its about building communitites where they should have never been built to start off with, its about washington that didn't support builds to help the coastline and nola for years ...
Its NOT about what and who did what wrong after the storm hit, its about what should have been done before the storm....
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
Sunny
Veteran Poster
Joined: Sep 20, 2003
Posts: 688
Points : 380
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:01 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
| JasonB wrote: |
Katrina was barely a hurricane when it passed over? Where do you live....Memphis? You certainly must not live anywhere in South Louisiana, because last I checked, we were without power for 4 days, and a piddly rainstorm doesn't do that to the power. I guess we can send all the people from New Orleans home because it was barely a hurricane when it passed over.
|
Sorry I should have clarified, i meant when it passed over florida it was barely a hurricane, because moore talked about how he was in florida. like it was anything compared to what we got.
As for the rest of it, you might be right, Bush should have been able to fix in 5 years, what other presidents and politicians have ignored for 200 years. How about blaming the local government.
|
____________
No participation, No reciprication! |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
JasonB
Veteran Poster
Joined: Oct 15, 2004
Posts: 793
Points : 1218
Location: Baton Rouge
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:01 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
if we weren't spending so much money in iraq, maybe we could save the wetlands, and build a better levee
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
Sunny
Veteran Poster
Joined: Sep 20, 2003
Posts: 688
Points : 380
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:21 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
| MrTrunks wrote: |
FYI. Global warming theory… the Earth is getting warmer… not that we are going immediately into an ice age. Ice age would be global cooling.
|
FYFI. The earth has always gone thru periods of warming then cooling. Global warming is what causes global cooling which causes Ice Ages.
The theory is that the warm the earth gets the more the ice caps melt, which introduces colder water into the ocean currents. Large ocean currents such as the North Atlantic and Gulf Stream currents are what gives North America and Europe our warm climates. The introduction of cold water will shift those currents giving us cold weather which eventually leads to an ice age.
Thats the quick story of it. Its alot more technical and involves the tilt of the earth which is also based on the amount of ice at the poles.
|
____________
No participation, No reciprication! |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
MrTrunks
Veteran Poster
Joined: Aug 22, 2004
Posts: 643
Points : 120
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:27 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
| Sunny wrote: | | MrTrunks wrote: |
FYI. Global warming theory… the Earth is getting warmer… not that we are going immediately into an ice age. Ice age would be global cooling.
|
The theory is that the warm the earth gets the more the ice caps melt, which introduces colder water into the ocean currents. Large ocean currents such as the North Atlantic and Gulf Stream currents are what gives North America and Europe our warm climates. The introduction of cold water will shift those currents giving us cold weather which eventually leads to an ice age.
|
Again you are confused, what you just described as global warming theory is “glacio-eustacy theory”. You have not correctly identified “the theory of global warming” .
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
Sunny
Veteran Poster
Joined: Sep 20, 2003
Posts: 688
Points : 380
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:14 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
Im not talking about the cause, I am talking about the RESULTS of global warming, and how they don't actually know if the problem is man made, OR if it is part of the naturally occuring warming and cooling of the planet that has gone on for BILLIONS of years.
|
____________
No participation, No reciprication! |
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
MrTrunks
Veteran Poster
Joined: Aug 22, 2004
Posts: 643
Points : 120
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:37 pm
Post subject: |
|
|
| Sunny wrote: | Global warming? There is no conclusive proof because they have only about 30 years worth of data on it. In theory global warming will bring on an ice age, and last time i checked those were cyclical events.
|
First Sunny sort out what you think you are talking about…
30 years of data, or BILLIONS of years, what are you talking about.
My point is that you are confused, global warming does not “bring” the ice age. A rise in the Atlantic Ocean temperature surface has been linked by some(Kerry Emanuel, MIT) to storm activity. This link has been questioned by others (William Gray, CSU)
Your part of the explanation (polar ice and ocean currents) sounds a lot more like the movie “The Core” and the “The Snow Gun Hypothesis” of M. Prentice. Not Global Warming.
| Sunny wrote: |
Global warming? There is no conclusive proof because they have only about 30 years worth of data on it. In theory global warming will bring on an ice age, and last time i checked those were cyclical events.
...
The theory is that the warm the earth gets the more the ice caps melt, which introduces colder water into the ocean currents. Large ocean currents such as the North Atlantic and Gulf Stream currents are what gives North America and Europe our warm climates. The introduction of cold water will shift those currents giving us cold weather which eventually leads to an ice age.
... Im not talking about the cause, I am talking about the RESULTS of global warming, and how they don't actually know if the problem is man made, OR if it is part of the naturally occuring warming and cooling of the planet that has gone on for BILLIONS of years. |
It did not sound to me like that is what you were talking about. If you were talking about man made, green house gasses or other wise, you could have said that, not misquote a scifi movie.
You said “global warming will bring on the ice age”.
You did not say “I do not believe that enough evidence exists to support the link between human beings influence on global warming, observed ocean temperatures and how that relates to storm activity”
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
Aim-Z
I've been around a while
Joined: Oct 08, 2004
Posts: 258
Points : 310
Location: Baton Rouge
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Sat Sep 03, 2005 12:36 am
Post subject: |
|
|
Jesus Christ..instead of arguing over global warming which will get ur testosterone driven selves nowhere, go volunteer and help those impacted by Katrina.
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
Christian
I've been around a while
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
Posts: 219
Points : 30
Status: Offline
|
Posted:
Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:32 am
Post subject: |
|
|
| Aim-Z wrote: | | Jesus Christ..instead of arguing over global warming which will get ur testosterone driven selves nowhere, go volunteer and help those impacted by Katrina. |
Amy, myself, and our friend are going to volunteer tomorrow. This is the first chance we've had so far (because of our job obligations) and if anyone CAN help, they need to. You are needed right now! Please help 
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
|
|
| |
Back to top |
|
|
 |
|
 |
| | | | | | |
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
Forum FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
