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| By Brian Fontenot Southpark dedicated an episode to it. CNBC ran a two-hour special on it. It has 1.5 million “associates” and is one of the largest corporations in the United States. And now, for better or worse, Wal-Mart opened its newest store in Baton Rouge on College Drive after investing millions of dollars into a road improvement plan and almost completely rebuilding the Village Square shopping center.
Working hard to be accepted by the local community, the College Dr. Wal-Mart has already pledged to give $40,000 to local charities through the end of the year. It has already given out $16,000 in grants.
“The community gives so much to us that we want to give back to them,” said Donny Briggs, the College Drive Store Manager, “They are our friends, neighbors, and associates.”
The store gave $1000 to both the BRPD and the BRFD. Another $1000 was given to Baton Rouge Green for Project: Nature Adventure Trees and Trails. The Mary Bird Perkins Cancer Center also received a $1000 grant from the College Dr. Wal-Mart. $1000 went to the Red Cross to purchase disaster relief supplies.
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rwnugent
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Wal-Mart is a tool of Satan that he will use to take over the world.
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JenniferE
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| Quote: | | What do you think of the new Wal-Mart on College Drive? Is it a good or bad addition to the block? |
It's a horrible idea. When Wal-Mart changed from a regular store to a Supercenter in Gonzales, all the business from Albertsons was taken away. Thus, after working at Albertsons for 2.5 years, they sold our store to a subsidiary of Albertsons...which is still not getting business. I lost my job because I didn't want to reapply for the new store and work for the new store manager (who is cheating on his wife with one of the girls in the pharmacy), and am one of the youngest people to ever go on unemployment... And it's Wal-Mart's fault.
But this Wal-Mart has decided to open up adjacent to an Albertsons. I give it two years-maybe less before that Albertsons is forced to close, also. One of my very good friends works there, and I'd
hate to see her go through all of this again.
They are currently changing the Wal-Mart in LaPlace into a Supercenter. Unless they've finished already, I don't really know. But when they are finished, it's supposed to be the 2nd-largest Wal-Mart in the US. Is a huge Wal-Mart really necessary???
I try to not even go into Wal-Mart. Mostly because every time I do, I have my high school reunion in there.
Wal-Mart is trying to take over the world. Do we really need one every five miles? I prefer Target. I hate Wal-Mart.
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It is really pointless to blame Wal-Mart for anything. Wal-mart is doing something revolutionary to the mercantile system, They are putting the power that once was with the manufacturer and giving it to the consumer. After 80+ years of people in America complaining that big business is fucking them over, Wal-mart has taken the consumer power away from the large manufactures and given it back to the people.
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| JenniferE wrote: |
It's a horrible idea. When Wal-Mart changed from a regular store to a Supercenter in Gonzales, all the business from Albertsons was taken away. Thus, after working at Albertsons for 2.5 years, they sold our store to a subsidiary of Albertsons...which is still not getting business. I lost my job because I didn't want to reapply for the new store and work for the new store manager (who is cheating on his wife with one of the girls in the pharmacy), and am one of the youngest people to ever go on unemployment... And it's Wal-Mart's fault.
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Wait a second...because YOU failed to put in an application to the new store, it must be Wal*Mart's fault? Because your new manager is an adulterer, it's Wal*Mart's fault??
Right...perhaps you should rethink that logic, there.
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JenniferE
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| MrTrunks wrote: | It is really pointless to blame Wal-Mart for anything. Wal-mart is doing something revolutionary to the mercantile system, They are putting the power that once was with the manufacturer and giving it to the consumer. After 80+ years of people in America complaining that big business is fucking them over, Wal-mart has taken the consumer power away from the large manufactures and given it back to the people.
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I'm not really clear on what you're trying to say...I still blame Wal-Mart for the loss of my job, and the loss of many other jobs. And in case someone tries to argue this against me, it would not benefit me to go work at the new Wal-Mart, because I would be getting paid less. People I worked with who went to Wal-Mart went from $12/hour to $7/hour. They can't find jobs anywhere else.
From Business Week: "for every Wal-Mart supercenter that opens in the next five years, two other supermarkets will close."
Wal-Mart's trying to become a monopoly. And that's just not good. As Wal-Mart becomes larger, other companies lose business. Not just competitors, but also the companies Wal-Mart gets their products from.
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html
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JenniferE
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| funkybrewster wrote: | | JenniferE wrote: |
It's a horrible idea. When Wal-Mart changed from a regular store to a Supercenter in Gonzales, all the business from Albertsons was taken away. Thus, after working at Albertsons for 2.5 years, they sold our store to a subsidiary of Albertsons...which is still not getting business. I lost my job because I didn't want to reapply for the new store and work for the new store manager (who is cheating on his wife with one of the girls in the pharmacy), and am one of the youngest people to ever go on unemployment... And it's Wal-Mart's fault.
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Wait a second...because YOU failed to put in an application to the new store, it must be Wal*Mart's fault? Because your new manager is an adulterer, it's Wal*Mart's fault??
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I meant that Wal-Mart is putting many companies out of business.
I have many many other reasons for not applying at the new store. Actually, if you must know, that manager wouldn't have hired me anyway. I went through so much shit at that store...so much sexual harrassment that I don't even feel like getting into, which he egged on a great deal. See why I would not want to work for him?
I blame Wal-Mart for the closure of the store I worked at. The loss of my job. That's all...
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funkybrewster
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| JenniferE wrote: | | MrTrunks wrote: | It is really pointless to blame Wal-Mart for anything. Wal-mart is doing something revolutionary to the mercantile system, They are putting the power that once was with the manufacturer and giving it to the consumer. After 80+ years of people in America complaining that big business is fucking them over, Wal-mart has taken the consumer power away from the large manufactures and given it back to the people.
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New: people > industry > government > industry > government …
Do you see the problem! |
I'm not really clear on what you're trying to say...I still blame Wal-Mart for the loss of my job, and the loss of many other jobs. And in case someone tries to argue this against me, it would not benefit me to go work at the new Wal-Mart, because I would be getting paid less. People I worked with who went to Wal-Mart went from $12/hour to $7/hour. They can't find jobs anywhere else.
From Business Week: "for every Wal-Mart supercenter that opens in the next five years, two other supermarkets will close."
Wal-Mart's trying to become a monopoly. And that's just not good. As Wal-Mart becomes larger, other companies lose business. Not just competitors, but also the companies Wal-Mart gets their products from.
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html |
Perhaps it's time to consider wether your cashiering or whatever miniscule "sales" experience is really worth, eh? I sincerely doubt that anything you could possibly do at a grocery store that isn't in the stock room is worth more than say $8 an hour, AT THE MOST. Wal*mart is simply giving the consumers what they want: cheap stuff. Being able to offer cheap stuff requires that they not inflate their workers' pay. If they didn't offer cheap stuff, they WOULDN'T MAKE ANY MONEY. If the don't do that, then WTF IS THE POINT OF STAYING IN BUSINESS.
You lost your job. So sorry. You're able to get another one, and you chose not to...can't say you're gonna win any sympathy with that argument.
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JenniferE
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| funkybrewster wrote: | | JenniferE wrote: | | MrTrunks wrote: | It is really pointless to blame Wal-Mart for anything. Wal-mart is doing something revolutionary to the mercantile system, They are putting the power that once was with the manufacturer and giving it to the consumer. After 80+ years of people in America complaining that big business is fucking them over, Wal-mart has taken the consumer power away from the large manufactures and given it back to the people.
Direction of influence.
Old: industry > people > government > industry > people …
New: people > industry > government > industry > government …
Do you see the problem! |
I'm not really clear on what you're trying to say...I still blame Wal-Mart for the loss of my job, and the loss of many other jobs. And in case someone tries to argue this against me, it would not benefit me to go work at the new Wal-Mart, because I would be getting paid less. People I worked with who went to Wal-Mart went from $12/hour to $7/hour. They can't find jobs anywhere else.
From Business Week: "for every Wal-Mart supercenter that opens in the next five years, two other supermarkets will close."
Wal-Mart's trying to become a monopoly. And that's just not good. As Wal-Mart becomes larger, other companies lose business. Not just competitors, but also the companies Wal-Mart gets their products from.
http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html |
Perhaps it's time to consider wether your cashiering or whatever miniscule "sales" experience is really worth, eh? I sincerely doubt that anything you could possibly do at a grocery store that isn't in the stock room is worth more than say $8 an hour, AT THE MOST. Wal*mart is simply giving the consumers what they want: cheap stuff. Being able to offer cheap stuff requires that they not inflate their workers' pay. If they didn't offer cheap stuff, they WOULDN'T MAKE ANY MONEY. If the don't do that, then WTF IS THE POINT OF STAYING IN BUSINESS.
You lost your job. So sorry. You're able to get another one, and you chose not to...can't say you're gonna win any sympathy with that argument. |
You should become more educated on the subject. I'm on unemployment. That requires you to apply for at least one job a week. Perhaps you don't realize that it's not so easy to find a job these days. I refuse to take a cut in pay. That's why I won't apply anyhere a cut in pay is guaranteed. Unless, of course, it provides good experience. And in that case, I have. I've gotten interviews at finance firms, etc. Most are looking for older, more experienced students. Being a freshman, I can understand that. My point is, I'm looking! I'm not "choosing not to find another job."
I didn't expect to get paid $8/hour. And my friend who dropped from $12 to $7 was the stocking manager. His pay was topped off. To go anywhere else, he would have to take a cut in pay because no other store in that area pays as well. He took a $5 cut in pay because it's just that hard to find a job!
I do have a job currently. I'm going to work at a law firm for the time being.
It's not a huge deal, really, I was just trying to prove the point that Wal-Mart is causing the loss of jobs. And you clearly can't argue against that. Because you refuse to address that point.
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funkybrewster
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You should become more educated on the subject. I'm on unemployment. That requires you to apply for at least one job a week. Perhaps you don't realize that it's not so easy to find a job these days. I refuse to take a cut in pay. That's why I won't apply anyhere a cut in pay is guaranteed. Unless, of course, it provides good experience. And in that case, I have. I've gotten interviews at finance firms, etc. Most are looking for older, more experienced students. Being a freshman, I can understand that. My point is, I'm looking! I'm not "choosing not to find another job."
I didn't expect to get paid $8/hour. And my friend who dropped from $12 to $7 was the stocking manager. His pay was topped off. To go anywhere else, he would have take a cut in pay because no other store in that area pays as well. He took a $5 cut in pay because it's just that hard to find a job!
I do have a job currently. I'm going to work at a law firm for the time being.
It's not a huge deal, really, I was just trying the prove the point that Wal-Mart is causing the loss of jobs. And you clearly can't argue against that. Because you refuse to address that point. |
HAHAHA!
I didn't refuse to address anything. I merely jumped on your inability to craft a logical argument. The only one refusing to address anything is you, darlin.
That's great that unemployment forces you to look for one measly application per week. Really.
I'm sorry you're a young, uneducated, skilless worker. I'm sorry the big bad corporations came and stole your cushy job away.
There are PLENTY of places in Baton Rouge that are hiring right now, so don't give me this shit about "waaa waa I can't find a job". That's bullshit. I have four job offers staring me in the face when my current job runs out on January 1st.
If you have a job currently, why the hell are you on unemployment, eh? It's people like you who make it hard on the rest of us when we might need a little help.
In case you're having trouble with your reading comprehension, I'll quote something I said earlier, which addressed the accusation that Wal*Mart is "causing loss of jobs":
| Quote: | | Wal*mart is simply giving the consumers what they want: cheap stuff. Being able to offer cheap stuff requires that they not inflate their workers' pay. If they didn't offer cheap stuff, they WOULDN'T MAKE ANY MONEY. If the don't do that, then WTF IS THE POINT OF STAYING IN BUSINESS. |
Wal*Mart is simply doing business, and when other stores can't compete, it's THEIR fault, therefore, making it THEIR fault that they can't afford to pay you inflated wages and subsequently lay you off.
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right now people have a choice: go to Wal Mart or go to Albertson's
if more people go to Wal Mart to buy their groceries then Albertson's will have to lower its prices, find another way to attract business, or close up shop... that's the nature of our economy;
when Wal Mart wasn't there, the only choice you had in that part of the world was Albertson's, and I don't know if anyone has noticed but Albertson's is expensive; now the consumer has a choice... remember, competition is a good thing; after all, it's what brings the price down for consumers...
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JenniferE
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| funkybrewster wrote: | | JenniferE wrote: |
You should become more educated on the subject. I'm on unemployment. That requires you to apply for at least one job a week. Perhaps you don't realize that it's not so easy to find a job these days. I refuse to take a cut in pay. That's why I won't apply anyhere a cut in pay is guaranteed. Unless, of course, it provides good experience. And in that case, I have. I've gotten interviews at finance firms, etc. Most are looking for older, more experienced students. Being a freshman, I can understand that. My point is, I'm looking! I'm not "choosing not to find another job."
I didn't expect to get paid $8/hour. And my friend who dropped from $12 to $7 was the stocking manager. His pay was topped off. To go anywhere else, he would have take a cut in pay because no other store in that area pays as well. He took a $5 cut in pay because it's just that hard to find a job!
I do have a job currently. I'm going to work at a law firm for the time being.
It's not a huge deal, really, I was just trying the prove the point that Wal-Mart is causing the loss of jobs. And you clearly can't argue against that. Because you refuse to address that point. |
HAHAHA!
I didn't refuse to address anything. I merely jumped on your inability to craft a logical argument. The only one refusing to address anything is you, darlin.
That's great that unemployment forces you to look for one measly application per week. Really.
I'm sorry you're a young, uneducated, skilless worker. I'm sorry the big bad corporations came and stole your cushy job away.
There are PLENTY of places in Baton Rouge that are hiring right now, so don't give me this shit about "waaa waa I can't find a job". That's bullshit. I have four job offers staring me in the face when my current job runs out on January 1st.
If you have a job currently, why the hell are you on unemployment, eh? It's people like you who make it hard on the rest of us when we might need a little help.
In case you're having trouble with your reading comprehension, I'll quote something I said earlier, which addressed the accusation that Wal*Mart is "causing loss of jobs":
| Quote: | | Wal*mart is simply giving the consumers what they want: cheap stuff. Being able to offer cheap stuff requires that they not inflate their workers' pay. If they didn't offer cheap stuff, they WOULDN'T MAKE ANY MONEY. If the don't do that, then WTF IS THE POINT OF STAYING IN BUSINESS. |
Wal*Mart is simply doing business, and when other stores can't compete, it's THEIR fault, therefore, making it THEIR fault that they can't afford to pay you inflated wages and subsequently lay you off.
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What did I refuse to address? Please tell me, I'll address it!
It doesn't matter how many jobs unemployment forces or requires you to look for. Obviously, you don't know me, and you don't know that I have applied at more than one job per week. Or that I have been looking for 3 months.
Am I skill-less? Really? Because at the interviews, I've been told I have a great resume. Albertson's isn't the only job I've had. I've worked two jobs at a time more than once...which is where I do get experience from. And am I really uneducated? I graduated at the top of my high school class and went straight to college...is there any other education I may have missed out on?
I don't live in Baton Rouge! Waste of gas! And in any case, I have applied for jobs in Baton Rouge! It's nice that you have "job offers staring you in the face." I do also. I'm not desperate. I simply refuse to take a large cut in pay. Which is why I said it's not a big deal that I haven't found a job yet! Besides, I still live at home. I can afford not to work. I can afford not to look for work. I choose to do so! It is, however, a big deal for people who can't find jobs that pay well enough to support themselves.
From the beginning, my only real point is that Wal-Mart is causing a great loss of jobs. And to help elaborate that point, I provided an anecdote.
I haven't started my job yet, my first day is tomorrow. Thank you very much.
Again, you seem to be uneducated on this subject. My collecting unemployment will not affect anyone else's need for assistance in any way, shape or form. In Louisiana, it is not the people's tax money that pays for unemployment. If that were the case, I would not collect. Companies that participate in the unemployment benefit rights insurance program pay a tax for in case something happens to their employees and they have to lay them all off, they will be compensated. It's an insurance thing.
You didn't comment on the loss of jobs. You commented on the pay rate of Wal-Mart employees. Which, I may add, is 20% less than any other supermarket. Wal-Mart is good for consumers...not employees. Depends how you look at it. You still haven't disproved my point.
When Wal-Mart runs competition away so much that they become a monopoly, they'll be able to charge whatever price they feel like. Inflated prices, if they wish. Then what will we do?
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JenniferE
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| machrichelieu wrote: | right now people have a choice: go to Wal Mart or go to Albertson's
if more people go to Wal Mart to buy their groceries then Albertson's will have to lower its prices, find another way to attract business, or close up shop... that's the nature of our economy;
when Wal Mart wasn't there, the only choice you had in that part of the world was Albertson's, and I don't know if anyone has noticed but Albertson's is expensive; now the consumer has a choice... remember, competition is a good thing; after all, it's what brings the price down for consumers... |
I'm not trying to argue with you. I agree with you. Everything you have said is true.
There is still a problem with finding another way to run business. Albertsons closed seven stores, including mine, and decided to try out a new way of running grocery stores. They lowered prices, etc...not sure on the details. They converted these seven stores into SuperSavers. These seven stores are the first type of grocery store that operates in this manner (sorry, I admit I don't know much about the manenr in which they operate.) The problem is that...they're not getting any more business. For my store in particular, I've talked to one of the managers. I had a friend go and apply there when he needed a job. (I can't work there even if I wanted to until March because I took Albertson's severance pay and have to wait 6 months) But she told him they can't accept applications because they've had to cut hours because of the lack of business. Even with the dropped prices, customers are still flocking to Wal-Mart.
Again, I do agree with you. It's just complicated.
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rwnugent
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Actually it is a proven fact that Wal-Mart hurts buisinesses in many ways. They hurt competitors by being able to sell products cheaper. They can do this because the volume of products they buy is so great that they can pretty much dictate to manufacturers what they will pay. Smaller competitors can't make an effective threat to manufacturers by saying they will take their buisiness elsewhere because the manufaturers won't really be hurt by it. But if Wal-Mart says, "Give it to us for this much or we will buy it somewhere else" well they have to play ball or lose a hell of a lot of income. This in turn causes manufacturers to have to decrease the cost of manufacturing the products, this is usually done by moving manufacturing facilities to foreign countries where labor is cheaper. That causes job losses here in America. On an unrelated note. I don't like the fact that Wal-Mart attempts to usurp the first amendment by refusing to sell music and other media which they deem to be offensive. No I didn't read every word of every reply on this thread because it appeared to be veering off topic way back there.
| JenniferE wrote: | | You should become more educated on the subject. I'm on unemployment. That requires you to apply for at least one job a week. |
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