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Jeninji
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:31 pm
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To me it seems that the whole meaning of X-mas is getting more and more lost to Verision Wireless, Singular cell phones, Budwiser, COX cable, AOL, Netzero, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Ford, Curcuit City, Best Buy, etc. adverts. It has come down to too much comercialization of X-mas where you need to buy as many people you know at least one "useless" gift. Why is X-Mas for the past 10 years been associated with; the headache of Christmas shopping, the annoyance of putting up Christmas lights, or (My favorite!) some athiest offended because a school had a manger scene or had a sign that said "Jesus is the reason for the season." I am not sure when fireworks became a part of the Christmas celbration either. Also no thanks to Coca Cola in the 40's? 30's? Not only did tghe company change his colors to red and white, but also now it seem everyone prays Hommage to Santa Klause and his 8 demonic flying reindeer instead of Jesus. Sorry but Rudolf's glowing red nose is a sign of evil. 
I think Scrooge had the right idea. I'm not putting up a Christmas tree, I'm not puting up any lights, and I'm not buying any fireworks, and not buying anybody anything, but I am still going to Midnightmass!!!!
So Bahh Humbug and too all a night!
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Christian
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 6:46 pm
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Christmas music sucks.
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funkybrewster
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:08 pm
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You should really consider investing in a spelling book...or two.
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funkybrewster
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:17 pm
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| Jeninji wrote: | To me it seems that the whole meaning of X-mas is getting more and more lost to Verision Wireless, Singular cell phones, Budwiser, COX cable, AOL, Netzero, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Ford, Curcuit City, Best Buy, etc. adverts. It has come down to too much comercialization of X-mas where you need to buy as many people you know at least one "useless" gift. Why is X-Mas for the past 10 years been associated with; the headache of Christmas shopping, the annoyance of putting up Christmas lights, or (My favorite!) some athiest offended because a school had a manger scene or had a sign that said "Jesus is the reason for the season." I am not sure when fireworks became a part of the Christmas celbration either. Also no thanks to Coca Cola in the 40's? 30's? Not only did tghe company change his colors to red and white, but also now it seem everyone prays Hommage to Santa Klause and his 8 demonic flying reindeer instead of Jesus. Sorry but Rudolf's glowing red nose is a sign of evil.
I think Scrooge had the right idea. I'm not putting up a Christmas tree, I'm not puting up any lights, and I'm not buying any fireworks, and not buying anybody anything, but I am still going to Midnightmass!!!!
So Bahh Humbug and too all a night! |
You do realize that if Coca-Cola decided to "pay hommage[sic]" to Jesus instead of the iconoclastic Santa Claus, they would be steamrolled by every single non-Christian. These people aren't out to celebrate Christmas, they're out to make money. It isn't their fault that YOU'VE allowed them to "commercialize" Christmas. They're just doing their job. It's not their fault you've succumbed to a "demonic" version of Christmas.
Besides, since when is giving someone a gift a bad thing?
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JasonB
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 7:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Happy Nondenominational Holliday |
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| funkybrewster wrote: | .
Besides, since when is giving someone a gift a bad thing? |
it's called an STD 
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MrTrunks
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 8:14 pm
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"Jesus is the reason for the season." |
Obviously Chanukah is the reason for the season.
| Jeninji wrote: | | I am not sure when fireworks became a part of the Christmas celbration either. |
What ?!? I have never heard of this. Ever.
| Jeninji wrote: |
Sorry but Rudolf's glowing red nose is a sign of evil. |
Show me in Bible!
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I am still going to Midnightmass!!!! |
After Mass your welcome to come over and have a piece of birthday cake.
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Ichiban
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Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:35 pm
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Actually, the roots of the celebration of Christmas originate in the Saturnalia, the worship of the Mother goddess system and the worship of a Sun god from back in the day. It's really cool to check it out! ^_^ Add in some commercialization, a few myths about fat men named Claus, and you eventually get what we have.
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MrTrunks
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:30 am
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| Ichiban wrote: | | Actually, the roots of the celebration of Christmas originate in the Saturnalia, the worship of the Mother goddess system and the worship of a Sun god from back in the day. It's really cool to check it out! ^_^ Add in some commercialization, a few myths about fat men named Claus, and you eventually get what we have. |
http://www.candlegrove.com/sacaea.html
This is what I found.
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rwnugent
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:04 am
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| Jeninji wrote: | To me it seems that the whole meaning of X-mas is getting more and more lost to Verision Wireless, Singular cell phones, Budwiser, COX cable, AOL, Netzero, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Ford, Curcuit City, Best Buy, etc. adverts. It has come down to too much comercialization of X-mas where you need to buy as many people you know at least one "useless" gift. Why is X-Mas for the past 10 years been associated with; the headache of Christmas shopping, the annoyance of putting up Christmas lights, or (My favorite!) some athiest offended because a school had a manger scene or had a sign that said "Jesus is the reason for the season." I am not sure when fireworks became a part of the Christmas celbration either. Also no thanks to Coca Cola in the 40's? 30's? Not only did tghe company change his colors to red and white, but also now it seem everyone prays Hommage to Santa Klause and his 8 demonic flying reindeer instead of Jesus. Sorry but Rudolf's glowing red nose is a sign of evil.
I think Scrooge had the right idea. I'm not putting up a Christmas tree, I'm not puting up any lights, and I'm not buying any fireworks, and not buying anybody anything, but I am still going to Midnightmass!!!!
So Bahh Humbug and too all a night! |
I wholly agree with this, except for the Midnight Mass part.
| Christian wrote: | | Christmas music sucks. |
Agreed.
| JasonB wrote: | | funkybrewster wrote: | | Besides, since when is giving someone a gift a bad thing? |
it's called an STD |
The gift that keeps on giving.
| MrTrunks wrote: | | Obviously Chanukah is the reason for the season. |
Jew bastard!!!! lol j/k don't send the lynch mob out after me.[/quote]
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Procrastination is like masturbation. It seems like a good idea at the time time but in the end you´re just fucking yourself. |
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TiGeR_PriNcEsS
I've been around a while
Joined: Nov 15, 2003
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:33 am
Post subject: Re: Happy Nondenominational Holliday |
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| Jeninji wrote: | To me it seems that the whole meaning of X-mas is getting more and more lost to Verision Wireless, Singular cell phones, Budwiser, COX cable, AOL, Netzero, Mitsubishi, Toyota, Ford, Curcuit City, Best Buy, etc. adverts. It has come down to too much comercialization of X-mas where you need to buy as many people you know at least one "useless" gift. Why is X-Mas for the past 10 years been associated with; the headache of Christmas shopping, the annoyance of putting up Christmas lights, or (My favorite!) some athiest offended because a school had a manger scene or had a sign that said "Jesus is the reason for the season." I am not sure when fireworks became a part of the Christmas celbration either. Also no thanks to Coca Cola in the 40's? 30's? Not only did tghe company change his colors to red and white, but also now it seem everyone prays Hommage to Santa Klause and his 8 demonic flying reindeer instead of Jesus. Sorry but Rudolf's glowing red nose is a sign of evil.
I think Scrooge had the right idea. I'm not putting up a Christmas tree, I'm not puting up any lights, and I'm not buying any fireworks, and not buying anybody anything, but I am still going to Midnightmass!!!!
So Bahh Humbug and too all a night! |
I am not saying I disagree with you at all, but I find it humorous how you bitch and moan about everyone commercializing Christmas and what it is truly about, but for the first half of your post you couldn't even spell out "Christmas"...you abbreviated it with "x-mas". Isn't that in itself removing the real meaning for the season?
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rwnugent
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:39 am
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Yeah you fucking hypocrite! You should burn in hell for that shit! just kidding.
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Niftoria
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:12 am
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Actually.. some Christians accept that X, because it can be seen as standing for a cross..
| Quote: | | The Greek word for Christ is Xristos. The shortening of Christmas to Xmas has been common since the sixteenth century, with the "X" often symbolizing a cross |
http://www.benbest.com/history/xmas.html
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TiGeR_PriNcEsS
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Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:44 am
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| Niftoria wrote: | Actually.. some Christians accept that X, because it can be seen as standing for a cross..
| Quote: | | The Greek word for Christ is Xristos. The shortening of Christmas to Xmas has been common since the sixteenth century, with the "X" often symbolizing a cross |
http://www.benbest.com/history/xmas.html |
*slaps forhead* D'OH! 
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MrTrunks
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Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:43 am
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26 Dec 04 - 01:21 > lsugroovychlck: i think it was like dec. 15th
26 Dec 04 - 01:21 > Sea_Monkey: I thought winter solstice was the new year and came earlier this month?
26 Dec 04 - 01:16 > JasonB: [edit]
26 Dec 04 - 01:13 > lsugroovychlck: now that i have shared that tidbit of info with all of you have a merry happy chrismahanakawanza
26 Dec 04 - 01:13 > JasonB: wow...so umm....take that! lol
26 Dec 04 - 01:13 > lsugroovychlck: christmas trees are also derived from pagenistic traditions
26 Dec 04 - 01:12 > lsugroovychlck: hmm actually christmas is a paganistic holiday...when the romans conquered the pagens they changed the winter solstice to jesus's birth
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OK first I don’t think the solstice will ever be on the 15th of any year. The 2004 solstice was precisely at December 21, 2004 at 7:42 A.M
Chanukah this year was December 8-16, so maybe that is what you are thinking of.
Second the Christmas is/was the celebration of the birth of Christ, hence not it self a pagan holiday. However celebrating birthdays altogether was not something done by the early church. It is clear that the early church did not make a large production of Christmas.
Romans did not change the winter Solstice to Jesus’s birthday when they conquered ‘the’ Pagans. A) Why do I say this, because the Roman’s where Pagan and Christianity (with a new Emperor) came upon them. B) It’s reasonably clear and well documented that Pagan Rome did not celebrate ‘the’ Solstice, they did however have a popular ‘birth of sun god related holiday’ that was near the time of the Solstice and incorporated new years. The Roman Emperor coordinated with the Church to allow the celebrating the new god’s birthday (Christ) at the time of old ‘sun gods birthday’.
Although some Historians simplify the conversion of Pagan Rome.
"Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it" (The Story of Civilization: Caesar and Christ, vol.3, p.595).
The story of the Christmas tree is in the Bible as a pagan celebration (Jer.10:1-5). So I don’t think you are telling anyone anything new to remind them of that.
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TheDude
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Sun Dec 26, 2004 12:30 pm
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| Jeninji wrote: | | I am still going to Midnightmass!!!! |
Latin mass is the best... 
And, yes, to others, Happy Chanukkah, Christmas, Eid Mubarak, Kawanzaa, Las Posadas, New Year, Ramadan, or Winter Solstice! Or as my peeps just say, "Wesolych Swiat!"
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